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  • kevindick

    I’d like to see some empirical evidence that this works. Surely some psychologist has tried some of these techniques in an experiment? I wonder what the outcome was on (a) finding the “truth” and (b) satisfaction with the process.

    These aren’t self-evidently superior. I for one find adversarial disagreement to be very productive as long as it’s respectful. When I feel threatened, I know I should assign more credence to the other person’s point of view. In fact, such an adversarial process was how my mind changed on Global Warming.

  • Rafe Furst

    Right, we are all different in our psychology so we will have different techniques that will work for us (and not work).

    The ones from the Rationally Speaking blog work for him. They all resonate with me except the last one: contrary to how it may appear, I am not so competitive.

    The list that I added are all ones that work for me personally.

    By having a comprehensive list (wiki?) anyone will be able find a set that helps them at any point in their life/career/research.

    FWIW, what you say about feeling threatened was what I was referring to in “Notice emotional reactions”.

    Also, FWIW, adversarial disagreement (respectful or not) is not my most productive way of interacting. I’m not sure exactly why yet.

  • kevindick

    It still think the “rational” approach would be to measure what “works” means in this context. Factoring this by personal psychology is fine with me.

    For example, given a Myers-Briggs type, it would be nice to know what sort of rationality practices typically produce the most learning, cooperation, happiness, etc. There’s a lot of commonality in personal psychologies.

    BTW, I know why adversarial works for me. In combat sports, you rely on your training partners to ruthlessly identify your weaknesses so that you can fix them. I guess I see respectfully arguing as working with a training partner. When you eat a couple of physical or rhetorical jabs, you know there’s a hole you better plug. But I’m probably a bit of a freak in this regard.

    • Alex Golubev

      Rafe, Kevin,
      It seems to me that Science 2.0 is an attempt to create a systemic approach to the hypothesis forming (as opposed to “testing”) space of discovery. I think they key part is “ask how other person could be RIGHT – The habit of the scientist is to ask how things can be wrong”. What is a systemic approach to asking how something else can be right? I think this has to do with language and overloading old terms from the last post, but what systemic ways do you know of and can you/we find?

  • Eric Brooks

    I would also describe myself as getting much befefit out of adversarial disagreement. However, if I were to expand on the original authors point I would say this doesn’t negate the theory that removal of your opinion from your being (depersonalizing it) isn’t necessarily superior. In a two person debate there is barely more than one person to inspect the reasoning at any one time. When we depersonalize our opinion we come closer to having two individuals who might now challenge that opinion. Likely, we also make our ‘opponent’ less adversarial and likely more rational in their thught process as well.

    I just hope it turns out to be as much fun:)

  • John L

    “What is science if not picking one story over another?”

    The stories of science represent an objective bias (globally accepted metrics and falsifications) whereas the stories of religion and philosophy represent subjective biases, and are fragmented into hundreds, if not thousands, of competitive ideological metrics.

    I really like this guy’s thinking and personally try to live in this “liminal” state of beginner’s / student’s mind, where everything I know could be wrong.

    On the other hand, I can’t abandon my collection of “universal certainties” gained over a lifetime of experience. But these are pretty simple, and are almost always mirrored in common law and common decency.

    I’m afraid, however, that the individuals and communities who most need to learn and embrace these anti-bias tools are the ones least likely to.

    Rafe, see you at DC10. Looks like I’ll be the 2nd oldest guy there :-)

  • Alex Golubev

    I bet this selection can offer some insights – Analytical Anarchism (via MR):

  • michael_webster

    When does a bias or heuristic give you the right answer fast, and more accurately than deliberate reason?

    Why should we discard these heuristics?